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Mike Kentrianakis's avatar

Jim hits the nail on the head when he writes, “The key is not measurement, but scale.” He cites Schrödinger from 1935, “The simple procedure provided for this…is perhaps after all only a convenient calculational trick, but one that today, as we have seen, has attained influence of unprecedented scope over our basic attitude toward nature.” The Heisenberg Cut, for all intents and purposes, is happening at the sub-atomic, or atomic level. He tells the history and evolution of this often misunderstood concept of quantum physics that humans toss around as thought experiments. In many ways, this error is not different than modern understanding of theory and philosophy, such as social-Darwinism, or being stoic. No human is necessary in the universe for the universe to be. Complexity is the matter of scale he speaks of, and the interaction of these “particles” (that can be calculated as waves with a function that “collapse”) increases so much after the atomic level that the calculations of probability become so infinitesimally small that they are essentially meaningless. It would take longer than the age of the universe for these cocktail party hypotheticals to occur. It’s essentially a trick. Moreover, the particles themselves interact and determine existence, not humans or consciousness. Your reading this comment right now is proof that you can count on the quantum states occurring in the particles in the elements right in your phone right now, and you are probably not so worried you will fall through your chair today.😄

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Elan Moritz's avatar

Great discussion… I was going to explore how The Cat got so famous… so finding the article was very welcome… it’s part of a longer story started by Einstein needling everyone about the spooky action at a distance / EPR… and Schrödinger cites Einstein as motivation for his paper; the EPR paper did a lot more, it is the motivation for resurgence of entanglement research, now manifesting in progress with quantum computing and ‘teleportation’ science

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